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A Question of History

Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:36 pm

Age of Empires has always been a historical game that would educate the players. However, AOE3 was different in that it never really bothered to do that, giving the player a fictional story with limited historical accuracy.

Which is why I find AOE3WOL so interesting. It's given me a lot to research, and I'm learning quite a lot as I go along. For example, Brazil got more slaves than any other country in the world, Simon Bolivar was South America's George Washington, and Argentina gets silver crates because the spaniards thought it was the land of silver, so the Spaniards named it after Argentum, latin for Silver.

But I do have a question.

What do Argentina's horses reference? Are they really all a bunch of horseriding cowboys? I almost feel like that's racist, but at the same time one of the staff members is from Brazil so maybe another is from Argentina?

What do the horses reference?
 
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Re: A Question of History

Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:18 pm

This can help you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaucho, Argentina have a great equestrian tradition.
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Re: A Question of History

Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:09 pm

"Racism" isn't a good word, but yes, many civ bonus are indeed derived from stereotypes.
 
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Re: A Question of History

Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:38 pm

Fenriz wrote: This can help you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaucho, Argentina have a great equestrian tradition.
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saifrafatnew wrote: "Racism" isn't a good word, but yes, many civ bonus are indeed derived from stereotypes.
There needs to be a more generalized term than "Racist" imo, but that's a discussion for another thread I suppose. 
 
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Re: A Question of History

Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:00 pm

Yeah, Southern cone of that period is basically latino wild west. Argentines are the cowboys, and Mapuches and other natives are the "indians"
 
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Re: A Question of History

Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:20 pm

75% of Argentina are Italian descent. I am surprised Italian isn't the official language there
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Re: A Question of History

Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:16 pm

Stealth wrote: 75% of Argentina are Italian descent. I am surprised Italian isn't the official language there
Those numbers are a tad bit exaggerated, also, Rioplatense spanish does adopt a fair bit of italian quirks.
 
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Re: A Question of History

Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:10 pm

Hoop Thrower wrote:
Stealth wrote: 75% of Argentina are Italian descent. I am surprised Italian isn't the official language there
Those numbers are a tad bit exaggerated, also, Rioplatense spanish does adopt a fair bit of italian quirks.
    
               I never heard of Rioplatense Spanish so this is a productive conversation.  lol you seem to know history. 
               
                I heard from Argentians with Italian descent, that's an accurate number but they don't speak Italian. Italians didn't do a good job of                   bringing their language with them when they migrated. They usually just speak Spanish and some speak English 
               
                I read 25 million of 35 million people in Argentina or 62% are Italian and most of Argentinians I have spoke with or met have Italian                    last names.   
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Re: A Question of History

Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:47 am

"Italian descent" isn't the same as "Italian". Italian inmigrants arrived one hundreds years ago and right now it will be difficult to found somebady that actually speak Italian
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Re: A Question of History

Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:30 pm

I get your point    
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