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Re: Doubts future of WOL

Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:49 pm

Hoop Thrower wrote:
MarceloCaitano wrote: do i hate paraguay? I love Paraguay! you animal! I hate Solano Lopez, I'm in love with history, and what Solano Lopez did to Paraguay was too cruel!
Your name sounds brazilian and you reek of bias. Of course you're not coming from an objetive point of view.
Who are you to label people? your trash! The only one who has prejudice here is you.
 
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Re: Doubts future of WOL

Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:53 pm

if you think it is a bad suggestion, okay now don't point your finger and accuse people of what they are not ... your trash
 
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Re: Doubts future of WOL

Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:26 pm

MarceloCaitano wrote: if you think it is a bad suggestion, okay now don't point your finger and accuse people of what they are not ... your trash
You are the msot toxic person this forum has seen in a while.
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2. Dont double post. Its anoying af.
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Re: Doubts future of WOL

Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:53 pm

am i toxic for defending me? good if you have nothing adds better shut up

if you don't want to be offended ... don't offend!
 
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Re: Doubts future of WOL

Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:18 pm

MarceloCaitano wrote:who started the war was Solano lopez in an extremely corvade attack against unprotected villages in brazil 
and many innocent people died in this war because he kept running away and putting untrained children to fight as he ran away.

you can make a much better fighting mechanic for the paraguay that makes more sense in the historical context than if the mod.
Please note that not everyone agrees with that. I've read that he wanted to protect Uruguay from Brazil. He probably didn't only do it for that noble goal, he probably also wanted to try humiliate Brazil (megalomaniac idea). And in all wars unprotected civilians are killed, so that's not an argument. Don't forget that in WW2, the alies also committed atrocities for example the Hamburg bombing. You should try to not view things one-sided. I suggest reading the English wikipedia page, I know that they have a nuanced description about what happened.
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Re: Doubts future of WOL

Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:59 pm

the Brazilian army bombarded a friggin' hospital and the United States had to intervene for Paraguay to not be completly obliterated.

As said, you reek of bias against Paraguay.
 
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Re: Doubts future of WOL

Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:49 am

Circle of Ossus wrote:
MarceloCaitano wrote:who started the war was Solano lopez in an extremely corvade attack against unprotected villages in brazil 
and many innocent people died in this war because he kept running away and putting untrained children to fight as he ran away.

you can make a much better fighting mechanic for the paraguay that makes more sense in the historical context than if the mod.
Please note that not everyone agrees with that. I've read that he wanted to protect Uruguay from Brazil. He probably didn't only do it for that noble goal, he probably also wanted to try humiliate Brazil (megalomaniac idea). And in all wars unprotected civilians are killed, so that's not an argument. Don't forget that in WW2, the alies also committed atrocities for example the Hamburg bombing. You should try to not view things one-sided. I suggest reading the English wikipedia page, I know that they have a nuanced description about what happened.
Wikipedia can be tampered with by anyone, you have read war books and documentaries. the person who wrote Wikipedia calls solano Lopez president, this is a joke!
Wikipedia is in English is inaccurate that says the majority of the Brazilian army was made up of slaves, that's a big lie, the total, about 146,000 Brazilians fought in the war from 1864 to 1870, consisting of the 10,025 army soldiers stationed in territory. Uruguayan in 1864, 2,047 who were in the province of Mato Grosso, 55,985 Volunteer Patios, 60,009 National Guards, 8,570 ex. - slaves who had been released for war and 9,177 naval soldiers. Another 18,000 National Guard troops stayed to defend the Brazilian territory.

where did you get this story from? The US never intervened in the Paraguayan war. It only ended with the death of Solano Lope who murdered his own family to stay in power.

And for God's sake there are several documentaries and books about this war,

I can quote more than 50 official documents of the time if you want!
 
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Re: Doubts future of WOL

Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:47 pm

MarceloCaitano wrote: am i toxic for defending me? good if you have nothing adds better shut up

if you don't want to be offended ... don't offend!
Calling people animals and trash is not defending yourself. You are simply toxic deal with it.
" if you dont want to be offended, dont offend " You call it yourself, but feel attacked from every single post.
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Re: Doubts future of WOL

Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:38 pm

MarceloCaitano wrote: I can quote more than 50 official documents of the time if you want!
You'll have a very hard time negating a third of Paraguay exists lad

Of course you can cite 50 documents about the war, I can do so too, but I can assure you you'll be extremely biased. Because you're brazilian, I can quote documents in spanish and show you a drastically different picture. Because Brazil had to justify somehow the genocide they were commiting.

And yes, of course Solano Lopez was a president, that's the title he had back then, he wasn't any less democratically elected than any other president of the period, you seriously think suffrage was big in South America back then?

Stop making a fool out of yourself, it's embarassing.
 
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Re: Doubts future of WOL

Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:20 am

Marcelo, you're full of hatred and you let it get over your brain's full capacity. Just calm down. Use your head instead of your heart. You don't even seem to listen to Circle's points and explanations. Or you do listen, but you don't take your time to try to understand them without biases and your point of view is way too subjective. Hoop is "just saying" the truth and you take that as a personal attack, lol of course you're not really neutral. If you don't listen, how then would people to listen to you?

About the "toxicity", I beg you to read everything from the beginning and rethink: you were the only person insulting and being enraged. Believe me mate, I know from (recent) experience that using your feelings instead of your brain is not good at all. But do as you wish, nothing ain't gonna change.
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