tr 20 makes sense in my mind because it caters towards those that don't want to be obliterated in the early game. But I find it nooby and very time consuming to do a tr 45 where you literally give everyone time to reach full vil count, build a army, create a entire base, and create many walls. One time a tr person scolded me for not building enough walls than he did. I find stacking 8-10 walls does nothing really, as mortars and petard units can make short work of them. There always seems to be some sort of 3v3 or 2v2 tr in gameranger at almost every hour of the day where regular matches are reserved between a few users like me. I do tr because that is all there is to do nowadays since I don't even bother with discord anymore. tr players have their own mindset really. The other day I challenged a tr player to a regular 1v1 and he said the game was "too boring" because I defeated him. You take a tr 45 player out of their element and they suddenly become subpar. I wish their were more dedicated newcomers who want to play the game the traditional way rather than taking 45 minutes in tr and then yell at me because I didn't give them a extra 10 mins beyond that to get ready making it more like tr 55-60.