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Habsburgs' religion

Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:55 pm

First of all, let me congratulate you on the wonderful work you did with this mod. I'm enjoying it a lot.

I'm just interested if you could change the religion of the Habsburgs civ so that it would include Catholicism? It was the main religion of the Habsburg monarchy and a big part of its identity.

In the mod, their choices are Lutheranism and Orthodoxy. I think Catholicism and Lutheranism would be the best historic choices for them.
 
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Re: Habsburgs' religion

Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:26 pm

But then what religions would we give France?
 
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Re: Habsburgs' religion

Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:04 pm

Catholicism and Calvinism

But then what religions would we give Belgium?
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Re: Habsburgs' religion

Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:34 pm

Calvinism, kimbanguism
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Re: Habsburgs' religion

Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:12 pm

Hoop Thrower wrote: But then what religions would we give France?

What does France have to do with it? Even if the choice is between giving Catholicism to either France or the Habsburg monarchy then it would also make much more sense to give it to the Habsburgs. France turned away from Catholicism during the French revolution (and even before that they fought on the Protestant side in the 30 years war and were allies with the Muslim Ottomans) while the Habsburgs viewed themselves as the vanguard of Catholicism and suppressed other religions. No one was more Catholic than the Habsburgs in Europe at the time frame represented in the game. It's weird that they don't get that religion, but if that's some sort of balance issue then I guess we have to accept it.
 
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Re: Habsburgs' religion

Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:41 pm

I'll cast a heavy doubt on that statement
 
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Re: Habsburgs' religion

Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:55 am

Everything I read says they were mostly Catholic. 
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Re: Habsburgs' religion

Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:45 am

The Habsburgs were synonymous with Catholic religion, it's widely known. They were fierce advocates of counter-reformation. They spread Catholicism violently in Bohemia after the battle of the White Mountain in 1620, and forced the Protestants to either convert or leave. They fought against largely Protestant rebels in Hungary and were mostly supported by the Catholic aristocrats there. They also suppressed Protestantism among their own nobility in Austria and promoted Catholics.

http://www.habsburger.net/en/chapter/fa ... lic-church

In the 19th century when Europe was turning secular, Catholic Church still had a lot of power in Austria and was serving to legitimize the Habsburg dynasty and their regime. The Orthodox Serbs fought against them and felt that Habsburgs were Catholic imperialists.

The Pope even beatified the last Habsburg ruler Charles I.
 
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Re: Habsburgs' religion

Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:56 pm

There is a reason civ 5 Austria chooses Catholic as a first choice. Hoop thrower is really historically ignorant.
 
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Re: Habsburgs' religion

Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:25 pm

Habsburgs already have a very very strong economy, and giving them Catholicism in the game, with the 4 belief techs, would make them OP.
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